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I Love Guns #4 by PopeyeTheoB I Love Guns #4 by PopeyeTheoB
A de/motivational-style philosophically humorous web poster series with weapons.

Simple English.

It's not brain science or rocket surgery.

The 2nd Amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Do you not understand simple English?

Here's a clue:

ALL of your so-called "arguments against" are either irrational, specious,
not founded or grounded in Reality or real Truth, often childlike,
inevitably self-destructive and hurtful to yourself and others
(both those whom you supposedly care about and those whom you could care less about),
usually sub-intellectual, almost always hyper-emotional, and/or simply wrong and wrong-minded.

If you think (more) "gun laws" would prevent "shooting sprees" (or anything like that),
then please tell me more about this new class of criminals who follow the law.

If you don't think or understand that ANYONE could fairly easily go out and purchase
pretty much any weapon they want on the black market for a decent price
within a couple of hours almost anywhere in the world, then you do not understand
how the world works in which you live, and/or are WAY too naive, and/or are clueless,
and/or are in extreme denial.

Also, it DOES NOT MATTER that the Founding Fathers did not and could not envision
(semi-) automatic weapons, or clips with 30 rounds, or smokeless gunpowder, or
horseless carriages, or microwave ovens, or tanks, or dynamite, or nuclear bombs,
etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

It is the basic, fundamental concept that is important, and what is truly at issue.
And that is as important and relevant today as it was 200 years ago.

People also like to suggest and pretend (like children) that they can interpret the meaning
of the 2nd Amendment in SIMPLE terms and constructs to mean something other than
what it truly suggests.

Similarly, they also like to conveniently "forget" that it is NOT just the 2nd that is apropos,
but also about 200 years of case law and U.S. Supreme Court decisions that bolster, strengthen,
and expand on that original intent, as well.

Thereby, YES!, "the 2nd Amendment" DOES give individuals the right to own and bear arms!
(and NOT JUST black powder lead ball muskets and the like)


Except for the occasional faux pas and hiccup, it and they are doing just fine, and we are more likely
to fuck things up due to the political climate in which we find ourselves today than to do actual good
and make it better.
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Zeonista Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2014
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ShirouZhiwu Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Militia means armed people. Possibly 2 or more. Militia has never meant the military or a police force.
MensjeDeZeemeermin Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
'Regulated' in those days meant, 'familiar with proper techniques.'  A well-regulated weaver knew what to do at a loom.
Zer05um Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Professional General Artist
So long as it is well regulated, ie, subject to clear and well defined regulation, I don't see the problem. It's the free and unregulated ownership that causes problems.

As to the thinking behind the amendment in the first place, I remain to be convinced it was anything more than a short-termist solution to a problem, and one that has ended up as victim to the law of unintended consequences.
PopeyeTheoB Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
One can easily make an argument that it already is well-regulated, if not over-regulated.
And still some people want more. But most of them are greatly disingenuous in their demands.
What they really want, and know they will never get, is abolition. They are irrational gun abolitionists.
Taking every single inch they can get, because they can't get the mile they want.

I don't know why you would need to be convinced that the amendment is anything more than what it says.

The Founding Fathers, et al., knew that you need weapons to fight any potential extreme governmental violations,
should they arise. They were very familiar with that, being under England's prior rule. Especially considering the
original intent where the states were to have sovereignty with a weak central government. That's the 10th Amendment
stuff that some people talk about. This has changed, of course, over the years, where we now have an extremely
powerful central government, and the states are basically now in subjugation to that federal government.

It's probably actually better this way, although, as usual, with power, and greed, and corruption, and all the rest,
there are rather extreme unfortunate issues that arise. And I suggest we are seeing more and more of that every day.

Based on that, the Founding Fathers would probably want an even more powerfully stated 2nd Amendment
if they had been able to see into the future.

If you think the gubmint can't get out of control and do things that are potentially or actually, illegal and severely
detrimental to the people, you have not been paying attention the last 10+ years, and/or are simply naive.
It hasn't gotten "too bad" yet (it actually has, but only for unlucky individuals and small groups), but we are
not beyond something really bad occurring at almost any time. Considering the way the Constitution has been
treated these last many years, that should be obvious to the point of being self-evident.

People refuse to believe and understand how truly fragile our country, and society, and economy, and civilization really are.
It's a day-to-day survival mechanism. If we weren't able to wallow in denial to the degree that most of us can,
we would literally go insane. As we are seeing more and more people do every day.

And all that from a flaming liberal progressive gun-loving pacifist who voted for Obama but now thinks he needs to be
tried for Crimes Against Humanity, and as a traitor to the United States of America for treason due to his extreme failure
to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States"

Like that's ever going to happen, for him, or Bush Jr., or Cheney, or Rumsfeld, or Rove, or Wolfie, or any of the many others.
Zer05um Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Professional General Artist
That's not exactly where I'm coming from. I think, especially in a culture like that of the US today, there is a fundamental mis-match between the attitude to guns and the social structures that exist - although I am aware that this is a gross generalization. Having a well armed populace is not a problem - see Switzerland for an example. The problem that seems to have occurred is the clash between gun ownership and an almost pathological aversion to community thinking. These two concepts are not easy bedfellows.

As for the politicians. Well, as KMFDM once put it: America gets the politicians it deserves.
GodZilliac68 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
Aren't "well regulated" and "militia" preliminary conditions then before purchasing a weapon?
PopeyeTheoB Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Read the part above about "...200 years of case law and U.S. Supreme Court decisions...".
RobertQualls27 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
A militia is any armed body of citizens, as it was defined any male(Now anyone) 15-48? Is a member of the militia. There have even been newer laws and regulations further refining and explaining that point written up until the 1950s that are still on the books. Up until my computer crashed I had the majority of them. 
StarFox1248 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Student Artisan Crafter
Well said
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